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Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

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Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby lalalandsynth » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:48 pm

Does that sound reasonable to you guys ?

A knob set for 22 turns can easily output 80-100 triggers on a full turn , even more then that if you dont let go and keep moving the mouse, which can happen in use.
Having a change prim and it will only output the 21 triggers.
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby RJHollins » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:43 am

lalalandsynth wrote:Does that sound reasonable to you guys ?

A knob set for 22 turns can easily output 80-100 triggers on a full turn , even more then that if you dont let go and keep moving the mouse, which can happen in use.
Having a change prim and it will only output the 21 triggers.

I use that 'Change' PRIM everywhere I get multiple triggers ... including many KNOB instances.

Just be sure that the KNOB [or slider] still delivers values you need. If so ... should be good to go.
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby trogluddite » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:22 am

Oh yes, every time for me in that situation. Likewise, for bitmap animated knobs, I'll use a 'changed' somewhere at the end of the frame calculation so that there's no redraw trigger if the displayed animation frame stays the same. This can save a fair bit of graphics processing overhead, especially if redraw-rate limiting is used as well (for Ruby controls, these can usually be incorporated into the code.)
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby RJHollins » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:08 am

fewwph ... always good to get The Confirmation' whenever a 'rookie' suggests.

Thank-you !

In fact ... I think it was TROG who taught us this back in the SM daze.
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby wlangfor@uoguelph.ca » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:10 pm

just wait. I'll be making a new foundation which will replace the way knobs work. Should be impressive.

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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby lalalandsynth » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:58 pm

"I'll use a 'changed' somewhere at the end of the frame calculation so that there's no redraw trigger if the displayed animation frame stays the same. " Can you expand on this , not sure how to do that and I use almost exclusively bitmap knobs .

EDIT> I get it , indeed , lots of triggers there as well
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby wlangfor@uoguelph.ca » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:35 pm

lalalandsynth wrote:"I'll use a 'changed' somewhere at the end of the frame calculation so that there's no redraw trigger if the displayed animation frame stays the same. " Can you expand on this , not sure how to do that and I use almost exclusively bitmap knobs .

EDIT> I get it , indeed , lots of triggers there as well


As will I even in My new example. it's a great idea. Thanks for sharing :)
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby lalalandsynth » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:48 pm

Old thread but thought I would mention something I encountered.

If you have a change prim on the output of the knob then I am successful in reducing the trigger from the knob, so all good there.

But when I try and reduce the frame count by placing the change before the redraw then when I do Ctrl Click to to reset to Default value it will not send a trigger and therefore not reset the actual value, only the knob, visually .

Where would you place the change prim to reduce frame redraw ?

Any thoughts on this ?
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby trogluddite » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:29 pm

For the frame drawing, look for the point where the value gets rounded to integer (the frame number), then use the 'changed' on this integer (for confirmation - the next calculation is usually a multiplication by the frame width or height, which may or may not convert the value back to float).
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Re: Change prim on knob output as a rule ?

Postby lalalandsynth » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:35 pm

Here is my knob so what I would want to do is to limit the redraw triggers right? Where that trigger counter is.
Feels like i need to reduce the triggers somewhere before that right ?

I can put a change in front of that Step module and that works but will not update the value when I use Ctrl Click to reset the knob.

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