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Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
With the MV dezipper it works.
(Don't understand why.. i take this one because it's editable, but there's nothing to edit for this.)
But i'm not sure if you want a slow ramp like an envelope/lfo controller that only goes up.
Or more an osc that is a saw, but with less harmonics..
(Note that this slow ramp will work differently if there's no envelope connected.
It will reset to 0 when the note is not hold. But with an envelope connected somewhere it reset to 0 when the note end)
(Don't understand why.. i take this one because it's editable, but there's nothing to edit for this.)
But i'm not sure if you want a slow ramp like an envelope/lfo controller that only goes up.
Or more an osc that is a saw, but with less harmonics..
(Note that this slow ramp will work differently if there's no envelope connected.
It will reset to 0 when the note is not hold. But with an envelope connected somewhere it reset to 0 when the note end)
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
Thanks Tepeix! I'll check that out...
Yes i'm focused on solving the very low and upper end of my LFO frequencies at the moment. Harmonics are unwelcome. I need both phase and sync since i'm setting up my plug for mono also, and both free and note sync lfo... iow needs retriggering capability etc. Maybe I can just add a reset on incoming trigger/sync to MVs dsp versions...
Generally I'm interrested in all sorts of solutions... They might be subject of repurpose, so any suggestions are much appreciated even if they don't solve this particular problem.
I can always sacrifice running a few triangles to atleast get a clean square but it doesn't feel good knowing that i'm using more oscillators than necessary lol
MV has made a treasure trove of DSP/ASM gems (not Ruby gems but who knows
)
I was actually able to rewrite a DSP (that MV had made) to create a timed gate. That's a wow considering it's me.
My own DSP skills leave a lot to wish for
I have no clue what i'm doing
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Yes i'm focused on solving the very low and upper end of my LFO frequencies at the moment. Harmonics are unwelcome. I need both phase and sync since i'm setting up my plug for mono also, and both free and note sync lfo... iow needs retriggering capability etc. Maybe I can just add a reset on incoming trigger/sync to MVs dsp versions...
Generally I'm interrested in all sorts of solutions... They might be subject of repurpose, so any suggestions are much appreciated even if they don't solve this particular problem.
I can always sacrifice running a few triangles to atleast get a clean square but it doesn't feel good knowing that i'm using more oscillators than necessary lol
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
MV has made a treasure trove of DSP/ASM gems (not Ruby gems but who knows
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
I was actually able to rewrite a DSP (that MV had made) to create a timed gate. That's a wow considering it's me.
My own DSP skills leave a lot to wish for
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Last edited by R&R on Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:58 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
Trying to understand the aliasing bit... but i'm mostly only using sync to retrigger LFOs. Causing regular clicks of course depending on whats being modulated. But can't take everything into consideration
would be cool to have a triggerable smoothing module. Might be do:able in combination with a sample & hold.
I'm however using hard sync with my regular toolbox wavetable oscillators. I don't know about aliasing in this case.
I've added the toolbox distortion, and also added feedback-connection in my filters. Sounds terrible lol, but HAVE to have them
Those two must surely be far far worse source of aliasing than anything my oscillators are doing...
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I'm however using hard sync with my regular toolbox wavetable oscillators. I don't know about aliasing in this case.
I've added the toolbox distortion, and also added feedback-connection in my filters. Sounds terrible lol, but HAVE to have them
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Those two must surely be far far worse source of aliasing than anything my oscillators are doing...
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
Normally with an lfo you don't have to care about aliasing.
Unless they become very fast but in this case it's more a ring modulator based on an osc.
Based on the way those ring mod is used sometime you have to first low pass the osc
before make then interact to not produce aliasing..
You could check for aliasing with a spectrum display.
(I use this one; it's an old one i think coming from synthmaker, i didn't find the last one in my toolbox..)
Unless they become very fast but in this case it's more a ring modulator based on an osc.
Based on the way those ring mod is used sometime you have to first low pass the osc
before make then interact to not produce aliasing..
You could check for aliasing with a spectrum display.
(I use this one; it's an old one i think coming from synthmaker, i didn't find the last one in my toolbox..)
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
A little attempt to slow the lfo when re-triggered.
I do no remember clearly but i think they could be other's more complex on the forum.
Using this way the lfo is resync, but it will not be at 0 exactly at the time trig, mixing progressively the new synced phase with the last one...
Maybe it's also possible to use a white synced lfo when the voice begin then to slowly blend to the blue lfo.
I do no remember clearly but i think they could be other's more complex on the forum.
Using this way the lfo is resync, but it will not be at 0 exactly at the time trig, mixing progressively the new synced phase with the last one...
Maybe it's also possible to use a white synced lfo when the voice begin then to slowly blend to the blue lfo.
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
Based on the way those ring mod is used sometime you have to first low pass the osc
before make then interact to not produce aliasing..
You could check for aliasing with a spectrum display.
Nice, thanks!
I'll hang on to that thought...
Will probably start checking this out in detail after the plugin is a bit more completed
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I can hear all sorts of nasty clicks and stuff (aliasing artifacts probably) coming out of my synth so... But if I start trying to solve these issues now I'll never get anywhere with the plugin
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
A little attempt to slow the lfo when re-triggered.
Cool! Will definately check that out...
I'm not going to be that picky about smooth transition when resyncing certain parts I think... I'm going to try and just do a hard sync when the lfo (that needs resync) hits zero crossing. If the transition is bad, its will be up to the user to adjust the the speed automation curve more accordingly.
But when considering the PPQ part and resyncing to pulses that might need a bit finess so as to not create terrible transitions.
But I don't know how much drifting there is usually? Static latency is one thing, but that can be compensated for If I remember correctly... Haven't even started testing my plugin in a DAW so
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
As with the aliasing part, I think I'm going to leave resync and these things out at this point in time... so as to not halt everything. I need to create some more sounds (oscillator schematics) for the synth also. I don't know anything about sounddesign either
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
My synth really sounds terrible but I don't care. It makes sounds when I press the keys
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
Man... i'm never finished it seems
Anyone know of a secret trick to resetting all presets in preset manager to current default values?
Btw... so the triangle oscillator prim in 3.09 has been changed? Seems it doesn't need 90degree offset anymore or are my DSPs acting up![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Anyone know of a secret trick to resetting all presets in preset manager to current default values?
Btw... so the triangle oscillator prim in 3.09 has been changed? Seems it doesn't need 90degree offset anymore or are my DSPs acting up
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
I did not work so much with the preset manager for now.
But i think that the problem is in most of the knob and control.
The default value is not working. (i never find a way to make it work)
The default parameter send something wireless but nothing receive it, but i don't know if the param prims is supposed to send it to the preset manager.
Trying to replace the param prim with another one i could get a default value of 0..
Which is not very usefull..
But i think that the problem is in most of the knob and control.
The default value is not working. (i never find a way to make it work)
The default parameter send something wireless but nothing receive it, but i don't know if the param prims is supposed to send it to the preset manager.
Trying to replace the param prim with another one i could get a default value of 0..
Which is not very usefull..
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
I think i find a hack.
But this is not a beautiful one...
(don't really understand how it works.. Maybe some steps are not necessary...)
With this modified preset module (inside the knob) there's a new option to reset the preset to the default value when we browse a preset.
So you have to access the parameter of the knob prim, indicate a default value and make the "erase preset" option true.
Then browse all the preset or those you want to assign this default value.
Then uncheck the "erase preset"
If you want to use another knob, you have to change his preset module to this one, then (optionally) to edit the propriety of the knob to make accessible the new parameter "erase preset" that will be lost in all the others parameters. Or you must not use the parameter but open the preset module and change the option inside... ...
Not ultra practice but seams to work well.
(Little drawback.. Now when you change the default value it write it to the current preset even when the erase option is off)
Re re edit : Hum sorry i just spot a very very annoying bug... When the erase option is uncheck there's 2 possibility : you have luck and the knob is working... If not you have to make it true then again false and hope it works... ... So it's not really good for now, don't know if i could fix it..
But this is not a beautiful one...
(don't really understand how it works.. Maybe some steps are not necessary...)
With this modified preset module (inside the knob) there's a new option to reset the preset to the default value when we browse a preset.
So you have to access the parameter of the knob prim, indicate a default value and make the "erase preset" option true.
Then browse all the preset or those you want to assign this default value.
Then uncheck the "erase preset"
If you want to use another knob, you have to change his preset module to this one, then (optionally) to edit the propriety of the knob to make accessible the new parameter "erase preset" that will be lost in all the others parameters. Or you must not use the parameter but open the preset module and change the option inside... ...
Not ultra practice but seams to work well.
(Little drawback.. Now when you change the default value it write it to the current preset even when the erase option is off)
Re re edit : Hum sorry i just spot a very very annoying bug... When the erase option is uncheck there's 2 possibility : you have luck and the knob is working... If not you have to make it true then again false and hope it works... ... So it's not really good for now, don't know if i could fix it..
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Re: Newbie question. Mixing Poly and Mono in schematics?
For the one that download the precedent version i hope you find soon this one !
The last one had an annoying and stupid bug !
Making the knob not working sometime when the erase option is uncheck..
This one must be ok:
The last one had an annoying and stupid bug !
Making the knob not working sometime when the erase option is uncheck..
This one must be ok:
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